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Post by Jeremy on Jan 22, 2013 18:20:46 GMT -8
I figured it might be a good idea to put the Salem Indoor Pit Meeting Notes I read every week online. So here they are, slightly adjusted for UAS;
1. Laps UAS: 10-lap heats, 15-lap “B” Main and 25-Lap “A” Main (All Racing MUST be done by 10:59pm)
2. Initial Start: Will be double file, nose to tail at cone in Turn 4. After two (2) unsuccessful attempts at double file start the field will be lined up single file for remaining starts for that heat or feature race.
2a. Drivers whose actions are cause for caution on the initial start will be sent to the tail for remaining attempts at starting the race regardless of their initial starting position.
2b. During single file restarts leader can pick up pace at the line in 3 and cone in 4, If the leader starts early he will be warned once, then docked one position if it happens again.
3. All cars involved in wreck will go to back and be charged with a yellow. (Flagger and Race Directors decision)
4. 2 spins in a heat or main will result in driver being black flagged upon 2nd spin. Driver will receive points in the order of leaving the track.
5. No racing to yellow. But we do race to the checker. If a wreck happens after the leader receives the white flag, the yellow/green lights will be turned on and we will race to the finish.
6. No one is allowed to pass prior to front stretch cone on restarts. All classes use cone except peewees and kid kart. If a cone violation occurs the violating car will be docked 2 positions on next caution. If there is no caution he will be docked at end of race which will be reflected in the finishing order.
7. NO ONE is allowed on track during red flag. This includes push quads. We will notify you when you can enter track.
Thanks
Jeremy Means Head Flagman Salem Indoor Speedway If there’s any questions feel free to post them here.
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Post by jwiard26 on Jan 22, 2013 19:08:17 GMT -8
UAS rules ask for a driver who spins by himself/herself will be dq'd on the third spin. Is that being changed to two unassisted spins?
If a driver is "involved" in a yellow situation, and that situation is not their fault, yet they have unavoidable contact with those that caused the yellow, will they be charged with a yellow also?
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Post by jwiard26 on Jan 22, 2013 19:45:22 GMT -8
P.S. Jeremy. This is a very good idea you've had here, sure to head off lots of potential controversy, thank you.
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 22, 2013 20:09:03 GMT -8
You know the "involved" in part of this is not always perfect but we have at least 3 sets of eyes to help with this. If you are part of initial wreck youll most likely be charged. If you go in there, never lift, and t bone the wreck, you'll most likely be charged. The only exception is if you were able to lift, but did get into wreck a lil, then keep it fired, you may not get charged. All of us out there are trying are best to make these calls on the fly. But if you have no where to go, and show that you tryed to avoid I try to make sure not to charge you
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Post by jwiard26 on Jan 22, 2013 20:29:20 GMT -8
Great answer, what I meant by unavoidable was " nowhere to go or not enough time to react and avoid". We got caught up in that scenario a few weeks age, two racers spun immediately in front of us, nowhere to go and couldn't avoid, made contact with those involved, didn't stop, but were still charged with a yellow. I like the idea of " if you didn't cause it you shouldn't be penalized". Thanks Jeremy.
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Post by wilywin on Jan 22, 2013 22:44:05 GMT -8
Jeremy...BK5 Main event is 25 laps! (20 noted above) The 2 yellow deal is a very touchy subject for some people! My opinion is pretty simple and straight forward. 2 yellows YOUR OUT! Avoidable, unavoidable, your fault, someone else fault....blah blah blah! To much grey area there. 2 yellows your out! With that many karts you spin once your race is probably done anyways! If this rule was applied and enforced regularly, it would totally clean up the racing and would make for better cleaner races. Be careful...look ahead...pay attention! People will drive better and be smarter about there descissions if they know there gonna head for the pits after 2 yellows! Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug! As far as the initial start deal... someone spins and it a complete restart, everyone gets there spots back? ?....totally retarded. Front row guys can go in as hard as they want cause if they spin and the yellow comes out they go right back up front??? I cant name one other form of motorsports where that applies! My opinion, your involved in the yellow wether 1st lap 2nd lap, last lap, or any lap in between....you go to the back! Jermey.....good job on having this online pit meeting deal! Great idea. I wouldnt want your job if someone paid me! Tried it once...no thanks! LOL. What i stated above was just my opinion nothing more. I will happily abide by whatever goes! Good luck to everyone this weekend! Were gonna have a big race to remember a great guy who was a great friend of mine! Its gonna be a big deal and i will be spending the day racing with alot of my good friends. And this race is getting bigger and bigger every year! no matter where i finish...I win! Cya all this weekend! #9
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Post by oldasdirt on Jan 22, 2013 23:40:20 GMT -8
This is a UAS 1/4 points race.. .. can we get some clarification on this? According to the 2012/2013 rules, after the third unassisted spin, it is recommended the driver is DQ'd.. IS IT being changed to two, and has this change been approved by the Oregon Administrator? Also, the re-start on the initial lap w/a Yellow and everyone getting positions back needs some more thought as well.. if you don't like how your start went, you're going to allow drivers to spin to bring out the yellow?? Don't seem right.. K. Olson
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Post by numbereight on Jan 23, 2013 7:53:27 GMT -8
I like the 3' daylight rule on the starts as used at the nats. A way better chance of everybody making turn one, and less chance of somebody dive bombing into the corner and taking out everybody in front of them. This seems to happen every big race.
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Post by Roger on Jan 23, 2013 11:25:33 GMT -8
This is a UAS 1/4 points race.. .. can we get some clarification on this? According to the 2012/2013 rules, after the third unassisted spin, it is recommended the driver is DQ'd.. IS IT being changed to two, and has this change been approved by the Oregon Administrator? Also, the re-start on the initial lap w/a Yellow and everyone getting positions back needs some more thought as well.. if you don't like how your start went, you're going to allow drivers to spin to bring out the yellow?? Don't seem right.. K. Olson Ken, re-read 3.B and 3.F.
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Post by Roger on Jan 23, 2013 11:28:12 GMT -8
Jeremy and I just talked and we made some adjustments to the Drver Meeting Notes posted above. PLEASE RE-READ them.
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Post by oldasdirt on Jan 23, 2013 11:54:49 GMT -8
Thanks for the adjustments Roger and Jeremy..
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Post by wilywin on Jan 23, 2013 12:30:11 GMT -8
Thanks guys.....that makes it clear and simple. I would print those and hand out copies at the drivers meeting. Then nobody can say they didnt know.
#9
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Post by dixracing on Jan 23, 2013 12:54:29 GMT -8
so what is considered a spin out? by yourself or in a crash?
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Post by Roger on Jan 23, 2013 13:06:42 GMT -8
so what is considered a spin out? by yourself or in a crash? Both will get you either a Yellow or a Black depending on what happened.
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Post by numbereight on Jan 23, 2013 21:48:22 GMT -8
Sounds good to me.
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